Medizin Aktuell: This was more the answer to my question about the opposition when the higher states of consciousness are made known and are established.

The other and more important question is whether it is easy or hard to break through the third main state of consciousness, deep sleep and penetrate into higher cosmic worlds.

Peter Hübner: Achieving higher states of consciousness is first of all bound to the use of successful technologies and also to the fact that we are prepared for it: that we really strive for it – in our deepest nature.

You cannot break through deep sleep if you think you can grab the corresponding technology just like that with money.
I have never met anyone who managed to do this – and I have met many who have tried it.

In our times we think you must and can buy everything with money. Of course, the spreading of all technologies – also mental – consumes certain financial means, and so the acquisition of a suitable technology to break through deep sleep will cost money accordingly.
But nothing has yet been gained by that: because successfully breaking through deep sleep requires that the person concerned makes his very own contribution: he must succeed in separating himself from everything mental-emotional, at least temporarily, that could hold him back in the first three main states of consciousness – and that is everything he can imagine so far.

So, when implementing such a program, he must free himself mentally emotionally from all memories and all wishes, which are connected to the first three main states of consciousness – at least for the period of practising.

Medizin Aktuell: And that is the big problem!

Peter Hübner: It is like this: on the way to deep sleep – i.e. when you fall asleep – you usually have all sort of things going through your mind.
That happens all by itself – because you are always thinking about something, when you are awake.

What leads me into deep sleep, is first of all a natural tiredness. It is based on my body’s efforts to relax and regenerate.

During the process of neuro-physiological relaxation, mental activity diminishes, thoughts gradually fade away, and finally I am – before I know it – immersed in deep sleep.

The onset of the physical regeneration phase in deep sleep is accompanied by increased neuro-physiological activity – and because my thinking is first of all bound to neuro-physiological processes, my dream experience begins. When the physical regeneration processes, which are induced during deep sleep, have more or less finished, relaxation increases again: mental activity decreases again and I fall back into deep sleep.

All these are absolutely normal processes in the context of the first three main states of consciousness, which proceed more or less automatically, and which are mainly about emotional and physical recuperation – and they take place as long as my organism is more or less satisfied with this regeneration, and I finally enter my relative wakeful consciousness, i.e. I wake up.

But if I want to break through deep sleep to advance to higher cosmic worlds from my own experience, I can no longer rely on this automatism within the three main states of consciousness – at least not in our present-day stressful time and world –, which mainly serves to regenerate my body anyway, but I must purposefully prepare to remain awake during deep sleep – like a guard, who is not allowed to go to sleep.

And this ability is also called: the art of transcending – the individual states of consciousness, deep sleep included are run through whilst being awake within oneself.

An example: if I go on a journey, I first of all have a destination. And there is also the possibility that I go on this journey together with other people, who also each have their own destination. They then get off during the trip one after the other. From their own perspective each one has reached his destination, is satisfied and remains where he is.

The same applies to transcending. There are many reasons for learning to transcend, i.e. to purposefully advance to deep sleep and to remain awake in that state.